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‎Characters to Make Note of/Add

Lianamir at 23:11, 7 April 2019

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Lianamir at 21:28, 7 January 2019

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Lianamir: /* how far can an integrate get from their ship? If their ship is destroyed, will they stay alive? */

2018-04-08T19:58:05Z

‎how far can an integrate get from their ship? If their ship is destroyed, will they stay alive?

Lianamir at 19:57, 8 April 2018

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Lianamir at 23:19, 5 April 2018

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Lianamir: Created page with "=== are integrates willing human participants, then? Do they retain their minds/personalities? Is there only one per ship or can they have multiple? === https://fail-fandoman..."

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Created page with "=== are integrates willing human participants, then? Do they retain their minds/personalities? Is there only one per ship or can they have multiple? === https://fail-fandoman..."

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=== are integrates willing human participants, then? Do they retain their minds/personalities? Is there only one per ship or can they have multiple? ===

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/309054.html?thread=1762233662#cmt1762233662

Integrates are 1 to 1 with ships. There's one imprintable software and tech-based nervous system on a ship and it's controlled by the nervous system of the integrate's human body, summed up by them as flesh is primary. In this kingdom, integrates are basically voluntary and are extremely well treated to maximize the quality of the spaceship and capabilities each has.

If an integration fails for any reason, the ship is destroyed and the compatible can't try again without having their original fittings surgically removed and being refitted, which is potentially lethal and generally not done. Similarly, if a sync fails during integration, neither the pilot nor the integrate can try again. An aborted sync means you don't get a sync. They take many, many precautions to avoid failed or spontaneous integrations and failed syncs.

In this kingdom, pilots are 1 to 1 with the most advanced ships, but for standard affinity, standard design or private spaceships, it's common to not have a permanently synced pilot and instead have sync pilots, who plug in to pilot. They're only necessary in riftspace, not regular space. These aren't 1 to 1.

The people they're at war with also practice mandatory testing for pilot and compatible affinity, but they emphasize quantity, taking even low affinity compatibles and integrating them whether they want it or not. Integrates there are not considered human after that but spaceships. They use sync pilots, who are trained how to get the most of riftspace out of their integrates but there's no effort to not lose the integrate personality to the ship and there's a lot more straight AI feeling with those, especially as they run the ship from the cradle, which basically keeps their human body out of commission. The ship body is primary.

The first kingdom has historical reasons they find the quantity based approach particularly repulsive, as dehumanizing integrates is against their morals and culture. An integrate's mind and personality are vital to the quality based approach they adopt, as in riftspace, the commander basically stops mattering beyond giving orders to the pilot. The integrate takes control with input through a temporary or permanent sync.

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		+	[[User:Lianamir\|Lianamir]] ([[User talk:Lianamir\|talk]]) 05:32, 23 April 2019 (CDT)
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		+	# Hurhetevh - pilot (Lew)
		+	# Käza - integrate (Rice)

	=== how do integrates work? ===		=== how do integrates work? ===

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	All of this is explained ad nauseum when someone's deciding whether to become an integrate because it's still very much a point of debate whether ships that survive are actually the person or not.		All of this is explained ad nauseum when someone's deciding whether to become an integrate because it's still very much a point of debate whether ships that survive are actually the person or not.
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		+	=== The Names of the Royal Family ===
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		+	Erisade or Risade for the Queen maybe

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		+	[[User:Lianamir\|Lianamir]] ([[User talk:Lianamir\|talk]]) 15:28, 7 January 2019 (CST)
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		+	# Mishän • the head of the Queen's Guard and the younger sister of Bhäzäf's troop commander
		+	# Tägän Li Nähweres • the first integrate that took them from Eret, the first world, to Misarha space
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		+	Note the language shift because Li is not licit in modern
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	=== how do integrates work? ===		=== how do integrates work? ===

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	=== how far can an integrate get from their ship? If their ship is destroyed, will they stay alive? ===		=== how far can an integrate get from their ship? If their ship is destroyed, will they stay alive? ===
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		+	https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/309552.html?thread=1766082352#cmt1766082352

	Integrates can completely leave the ship, but if they go far enough that they can no longer contact the ship, it's a little weird and the log matching when they come back into range is just like when they've been asleep. Which depending on how long they've been separated can be awful. The spaceship is not safe to take into riftspace with the integrate absent, though sometimes it will take a short, super easy route through riftspace anyway. Because integrates like to live dangerously.		Integrates can completely leave the ship, but if they go far enough that they can no longer contact the ship, it's a little weird and the log matching when they come back into range is just like when they've been asleep. Which depending on how long they've been separated can be awful. The spaceship is not safe to take into riftspace with the integrate absent, though sometimes it will take a short, super easy route through riftspace anyway. Because integrates like to live dangerously.

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	The first kingdom has historical reasons they find the quantity based approach particularly repulsive, as dehumanizing integrates is against their morals and culture. An integrate's mind and personality are vital to the quality based approach they adopt, as in riftspace, the commander basically stops mattering beyond giving orders to the pilot. The integrate takes control with input through a temporary or permanent sync.		The first kingdom has historical reasons they find the quantity based approach particularly repulsive, as dehumanizing integrates is against their morals and culture. An integrate's mind and personality are vital to the quality based approach they adopt, as in riftspace, the commander basically stops mattering beyond giving orders to the pilot. The integrate takes control with input through a temporary or permanent sync.
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		+	=== how far can an integrate get from their ship? If their ship is destroyed, will they stay alive? ===
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		+	Integrates can completely leave the ship, but if they go far enough that they can no longer contact the ship, it's a little weird and the log matching when they come back into range is just like when they've been asleep. Which depending on how long they've been separated can be awful. The spaceship is not safe to take into riftspace with the integrate absent, though sometimes it will take a short, super easy route through riftspace anyway. Because integrates like to live dangerously.
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		+	If the ship is destroyed, the integrate will survive, but it's a massive case of phantom limb, and they can't integrate with a new ship, but they can still interface with computer equipment and software.
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		+	If the integrate dies and the ship is intact, the personality continues, though it's not quite the same and the ship is no longer riftspace capable and is retired.
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		+	All of this is explained ad nauseum when someone's deciding whether to become an integrate because it's still very much a point of debate whether ships that survive are actually the person or not.

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		+	=== how do integrates work? ===
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		+	The underlying premise is that riftspace requires will and calculations to manipulate and the human brain is not capable of doing the calculations while a ship is incapable of providing the will. Enter integrates. However, an integrate without a pilot has a whole lot of other issues, including being likely to completely lose themselves in riftspace and as a rule, an integrate always flies with a pilot or a group of other ships that keep them from doing that.
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	=== are integrates willing human participants, then? Do they retain their minds/personalities? Is there only one per ship or can they have multiple? ===		=== are integrates willing human participants, then? Do they retain their minds/personalities? Is there only one per ship or can they have multiple? ===